fancy goldfish "Float"
Q: I seem to have a floating goldfish,
he is floating upright and normal not titling at all but he’s at the top of the tank.
He can swim down and all around fine but when he stops he goes up to the top.
We have two ranchus Ernie my lemon head 6-6.25 inches
and Grover the orange 5.75-6 inches.
Before this had started:
The 40g breeder had been doing really well.
On 1/28 water was good PH7.6 ammonia 0-.25 nitrate 10-20 nitrite 0 but did a change.
When I added Grover into the tank 1/29, the water levels stayed the same that first day
On 1/30 my nitrites spiked for some reason going to .50, ammonia .25-.50, ph 7.0 and Nitrates 20-40, did a huge change added stress coat. Opted to not feed that day
On 1/31 the water mid afternoon but levels were now Nitrites .0, ammonia .0, ph 7.4 and Nitrates 10-20
Feed them tested the water that night Nitrites .25, ammonia .0, ph 7.0 and Nitrates 20-40 - did a 25% water change
Added in four new plants 2/1
Water levels seemed to go back to Nitrites .0, ammonia .0, ph 7.4 and Nitrates 10-20
Fed and checked levels that night
Water levels didn’t change
Still changed 25% water
All seemed fine
The water was good PH7.6 ammonia 0-.25 nitrate 10-20 nitrite 0.
Glued plants to rocks
All seemed fine fish where bonding and poops seemed ok at this point
Thursday Night: When this all started
Noticed Ernie was a bit floaty and feed peas
Noticed he was gulping at the top of the tank a bit
I realized he was really floaty and decided to fast both fish
Gave Ernie a salt bath for 30 mins
Noticed Ernie was gulping at the top of the tank a bit
Saw no change
Noticed Ernie was gulping at the top of the tank a bit fasted this day as well
Water change in the big tank
Ernie was still floaty and realizes he had not pooped as far as I could tell so Fed some peas and gave 30 min salt bath.
I then decided after that salt bath Ernie was just really floaty to move him to the 10g QT tank
as he pooped in the salt bath but it was extremely thin and short.
It didn’t look normal had a thick white case. (Worried about an illness)
Ernie had pooped a small amount but was still floaty.
The poop was still strange small and had a white casing
Decided to try General Cure - placed powder in the take removed carbon, turned heat up to 72-73 degrees
Grover seemed lonely but ok
Ernie seemed better less floaty but still was towards the top of the tank -
Has not had food since Monday.
Noted he is worse in the AM and early afternoon much better at night
Grover I noticed was a bit floaty
Ernie was given the second packet of the General cure -
still floaty but pooped a small amount over night
This AM he is still floaty
Grover still in the 40g planted seemed floaty
and had a long white poop with some mix of food in it.
I am now worried that this may be a worm or something
Their diet had been
frozen foods (stopped 1/30),
repashy superfood (stopped 2/1)
Hikari lion head sinking pellets had been the daily along with the seaweed pellets
(have paused both of these for both fish 2/3) Peas is now what they are given exclusively
Did I do something wrong? Is the general cure whats helping?
A: GENERAL CURE HAS METRONIDAZOLE WHICH KILLS BACTERIA - SIZED PARASITES & PRAZIQUANTEL WHICH KILLS GILL FLUKES & SOME INTERNAL WORMS, WHAT I LIKE BEST ABOUT GENERAL CURE IS IT CAN DO NO HARM TO THE FISH.
Q: Could this be something else?
Ernie seems better in his floating does not have any part of him out of the tank anymore
and he's about 1/8 of an inch from the surface when he floats.
Is there anything else I should be doing?
I have trained them to eat from a dog bowl so they dont have to battle rocks and don't have sand.
The tank does have sand and I have done my best to cover it with plants and rocks
Also if this is a parasite -
A: I DON'T THINK IT'S A PARASITE... I THINK IT'S THE SHAPE OF THE FISH.
Q: I have another 10g QT tank for Grover which I plan to set up
And I plan on resuming salt baths with Ernie Saturday
But how should I treat the 40g as its planted
A: GENERAL CURE WILL NOT HURT PLANTS, DYE MEDICATION AND SALT WILL KILL PLANTS, BUT FEW OTHER MEDS.
Q: And I have a mystery snail how do I treat him as well? He currently seems good and happy
A: AS FAR AS I KNOW ONLY COPPER MEDS WILL KILL SNAILS, BUT READ LABELS & DO RESEARCH.
... Well you are doing everything right but ...
just the shape of fancy goldfish leads to problems even if you do everything right.
(FANCY GOLDFISH ARE SELECTIVELY BRED TO HAVE ODD BODY SHAPES,
SO... THE VITAL INTERNAL ORGANS MALFORM TO FIT THE SHORT BODY)
I will say we virtually never see "Float" at the store ...
we feed our fancy goldfish bulk spirulina flake, live duckweed,
occasionally small sinking pellets, frozen brine or bloodworms, or earthworm flake.
Our pH is usually 7.6, and we usually do a 90% water change every week.
I think the live duckweed is the key to success.
I suggest you get some from us, and grow it yourself, in any container with any light over it,
and feed live duckweed twice a week.